Hi This is Nihaya
I wander if i can make it lighter. Yes i did the cover sheet thanks to Georges advice. I have also put it in the drop box but not sure if its right though!
Yes it's a bit dark but it's fine Nihaya.... hey! We are almost finished!!!! Have you managed to solve the cover page problem yet?
Hi (Nihaya) I have uploaded mine as well but its too dark!
Hi (Fiona), I've uploaded my signature...
Hi George
Thank u so much. I think you are an angel!!
HI all - george again.. just changed the contributors page to alphabetical order... thought this was better.
Hi Nihaya - it's george... If you want to use the boxes.. you have to put a "include page div close" when you want it to end.. then to get it the size you want.. you have to delet the spaces.. between the text and the "include box" object. I just had a look at your page.. the reason I used the box for the caption is that it was separate information/ style from the video caption. Now that you have 3 boxes.. .. the caption box doesnt looks special... I think. However, I'm glad you are experimenting with the boxes. I'm gonna change it a little... but you can experiment some more with it if you want.
Hi George
Its Nihaya. Thanks alot for doing my page. I like it better now. Again i have tried to make the ccaption for the videos look the same as the middle one you did as i like it more than the other one. Again i didnt go a good job. Sorry, i know u have been really patient with me. Thanks for everything. If u go to my page u will knwo what i mean.
Nihaya
HI Nihaya.. its george.. I worked on your page a bit... if you don't like it you can revert to another version.. see you tomorrow.. ps.. i sent you an email about the cover sheet.
HI George, Tony and Fiona. I tried to make my page like everyone else's in the layout and look but this is what i came up with. Now the videos look out of place. Also the colour blue has stretched all over the page. Any suggestions! ? Or should be put back how it was?? please help!!!!!
HI - George here.. the definition of voicemail from wikipedia - I guess I meant voice mail in terms of any kind of "stored" voice message that can be retrieved and listened to at a later date... including that function on Skype... Skype is not just synchronous... but also asynchronous (or has the potential to be ) , although I don't know how many people use it like that.. I have had a few voice mails on skype... and I thought they were pretty weird... actually i didn't hear it until a month later so you..... have to be there.. checking it regularly .. like email I suppose. You can also record a short message in MSN messenger... and then send it...not synchronous exactly.. actually all these mediums are becoming increasingly similar I think. Text used to be just asynchronous (writing letters) - then it became synchronous... with chat. On the other hand, we mostly think of voice as being synchronous. but it doesnt have to be.. take podcasts etc. I think its true that with CMC we often see new modes emerge, that shift the established norms of communication.
Here's the Wiki quote:
"Voicemail messages are stored on hard disk drives, media generally used by computers to store other forms of data. Messages are recorded in digitized natural human voice similar to how music is stored on a CD. To retrieve messages, a user calls the system from any phone, logs on using Touch-tones (clearing security), and his messages can be retrieved immediately. Many users can retrieve or store messages at the same time on the same voicemail system." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_mail
Many voicemail systems also offer an automated attendant facility. Automated attendants enable callers to a “main” business number to access directory service or self-route the call to various places such as a specific department, an extension number, or to an informational recording in a voice mailbox, etc"
Hi, Fiona here, I know what you mean re text chat, I actually think it's a combo. However..the voicemail thing...? Aren't we referring to Tony's voice calling eg skype, which is definitely synchronous?....
HI Fiona (george again) - I read your conclusion.. very nice. I also read through the intro .. and I didn't agree with what you said about text chat being asynchronous (small time delay).. thought that was a bit messy so I cleaned it up.. hope you don't mind....
OK (george) - I'll read it now... oh By the way - I just performed open heart surgery on Tony's page cause that out of align thing was really getting to me. Hope I haven't wrecked anything Tony... somehow I feel your page is a little drab... that pic I put there of the headset just looks really plain.. Do you have any other photos or something we coujld put there.
cheers
Hi it's Fiona. Conclusion is done...please read it and let me know if you think it's missing anything...I was conscious of word count..it's about 350. Couldn't really do it in less than that...it's more a matter of whether we need more....? Let me know what you think,...
also.. firefox lets you do "tabbed browsing" ... just open as many page tabs as you want.. its so much easier to edit the wikisite... as I'm sure Fiona will agree. Anyway.. I'll put the comment below on the first page for you...
Err.. Fiona.. I looked at Tony's page and it still looks wacky to me... is it supposed to be centre aligned....
... George
HI. Nihaya again
I couldn't access the home page as i thought. SO this is what i want to leave on it next to email.
The usage of electronic mail enhances processes of dialogue and thus learning. It enhances students' English skills when they communicate outside the classroom.
From Nihaya. Thursday
Well done everyone! Wow! I love our site. Its so organized and looks fantastic. I don't think i can access the home page to do my summary. I am going to try it now but doubt that I can access it. If i cant do it then I will leave my summary here for anyone to do it for me on the home page next to my email page. I love your signature George. Looks really nice and authentic. Well done. By the way, whenever I download my coversheets from student connect i can never open them to write them or save them as word document. Any suggestions??!!! If i cant do that then am going to have to get the same sheet which Muriel left for the 1st essay and i will just reuse it and put the number for the second task. Cheers.
from Fiona Thursday..... Notes and edits Hi guys... before writing the conclusion, I am going through the whole wiki, taking notes, doing a bit of editing ( just cutting out repetition, wordiness etc). I have been in your pages tightening and tweaking a few things...if you don’t like it, no prob, just check your history and revert back. Note, I have taken out the personal pronouns, ‘I have noticed’, ‘my school’ etc.. I have finally managed to edit the overview page through Firefox( as George suggested). The need for a definition of asynchronous/synchronous was queried... I've put it in as I'm not sure where we left this... do we want it? Anyway, if we do, this text addition makes the page looks unbalanced, but I don't want to fiddle... will leave that to Tony or George. Why is Tony's wiki page out of alignment? I notice that the edit page is all aligned... (note, it was out of whack before I got there...made sure I checked that!) Reference.. for George’s mobile page...I’ve found and put in a link for the Japan cell phone story- Tony can you check if you’re happy with how I put it in the bibliography? George, I definitely think the mobile phone page should be left in... I’ve slashed it up a bit though... ok? I need to take a break though now... Am up to no.7 Virtual worlds... and freely admit I have been completely sidetracked (Firefox offers me much faster access). George... this really is such an exciting addition to the wiki, well done. The whole thing is looking and sounding so good!!!!
ps..why has this saved outside the page???? is it word? I saved as a 97-2003 word doc so it can't be that...
.... Actually tony... thats embarrassing.... errr^.^
From Tony
George, did you know that you are the 4th most prolific editor on wikispaces?! Oh ... My... God!
from Fiona - George, god, I don't know.... to embed or not to embed.... the refs look interesting but I think I'm out of puff and will stick to the existing ones! Tony, I agree that the bibliography is better 'neat' on its own.
FIONA AND TONY... and Nihaya ... hi , its george,... I found some extra references that I had from early in the semester ... I uploaded them here to the site just in case anyone could be bothered having a look.. some of them are quite good. .. also , I found a great way to upload and embed documents as flash objects... it looks pretty cool... check it out here... or here. Let me know if you have any other docs you would like to embed like this.. I know its just fancy stuff but I cant resist it... seeyou tomorrow nighy
Hi Nihaya... its not so hard really... you just have to look at *history*.... you will find it at the top of your page... you can look at all the different versions of your pages
Monday
from Nihaya
HI George
God bless you! I don't know how u did it but u did. I appreciate it a lot!
Sunday
HI Everyone..(george)..oh ... could you all try to write two sentences on the intro page... it looks good as an index. also... just wondering - do you think it would be better to put the "extra resources" on a separate page....? so that the bibliography is neat/ compact... I expect the further resources section could be potentially massive and a little messy. ps.. I had a look at that other groups site and these days its not looking as great as I thought it was a few weeks ago... well done everyone!!
Hi George
I have edited your references into the references page. But I have not edited the references on your page. Did you want me to make them match the Deakin Style Guide? I have emailed you what they would look like. There are a couple of author's names I need help with ... they weren't clearly listed on the web page you referred to.
Hi Fiona,
I made a few changes to your references on your page- just to make it more like the style guide. I also made the font & format uniform. Did you have time to check that one I emailed you about?
Sunday
HI Nihaya.. its george... I saw your problems... I reverted your page to an earlier version.. I hope this is what you wanted... yes.. editing in wikispaces is sometimes very frustrating.. i suggest you do it all in microsoft word first... then copy to wikispace.. might be less frustrating for you... but when you copy it back to wikispace, it helps if you put it in "wordpad" first.. then from wordpad into wikispaces... this helps to remove formatting that makes the page confused....does this make sense?... good luck ...
Nihaya HELP, George or anyone!!!
I have crashed my page and i lost everything but when i want to get back to everything from manage space i lose the videos. also the image does not sit like b4. Can you help me put everything back together, pleas! I have made changes but i have to abandon them to redo them again. I need my page back please. I am trying to get it from last night and the changes are made by me.
Sunday - its george hi.. sorry I have no idea why the overview page keeps on crashing. I tried re-building it .. but it still crashes.. I have found sometimes I can access it with firefox browser.. but in the meantime.. if you cant access and you want to add or subtract text.. you can let me know and I could try to do it.. cheers everyone..George
Saturday night - I'm leaning towards deleting the mobile phone page... does anyone have an opinion about it, or want to spend some time working on it?
Friday Night ... its George , hi.. OK I looked. How about 1 2 3 4 5 etc. 6 mobiles 7 virtual worlds, 8 conclusion, 9 references further resources 10 reflection 11 Language Lab, Chat 1, 2, 3.
I think if I ever want students to use this site it should be easy to Navigate to and should still appear on the left menu. but I think last is prolly better. what do you think. anything coming after the references and further resources would be outside the word limit? is that correct. ??
cheers..George..lll Oh I say the title.. yeah.. now you know how time consuming doing the formatting really is. Its a nightmare.. nothing works and it suddently you've got two images overlapping eachother. It has to do with the magnification function used in the text edit window. If you hit the return key it inserts a new line, but the line is also a larger percent magnification, so ends up overlapping the first text. Well it took me a while to get it fixed. Even harder was removing the annoying little bars that appear in table of contents . I have ditched the right aligned table of contents.. as way too messy. but good on a few of the pages. I like them just horizontal under the heading. What do you think? but only use heading 1 if you want your text to appear in the table of contents. Also, dont make it "heading one" until all the other work on your text is done. This avoids problems with weird stuff appearing in the TABLE OF CONTENTS>
Also you'll see a number of "include page" blocks if you are editing the pages, Please leave these. They are the black background, the yellow boxes, and the fact that when you click on a link it opens automatically in a new window.
cheers... ps...I'll be home all weekend doing research. Prolly leave skype up an runnin
George
Friday - Fiona. Hi all, I have emailed everyone some notes I made while going through the wiki, suggestions/comments re edits/changes. Could you look at these?
Do you want me to do the conclusion? No problem, but can you please throw in anything you'd like to include on that page - just point form.
I'll check out firefox, thanks George, I should have thought of that... Oh George, I fiddled with the front page...is the title change ok? I can't get a damn space between the lines though. Also, I cut the explanation sentences from the modes of communication...I thought it was too wordy and belonged in the section itself...is that ok? Can be changed back of course.
Looking again, I don't think the language lab belongs before the conclusion..... I suggest that our reflection page should be separate and come after the conclusion. Reflection can also include our 'potential' page with all the exciting stuff we have discovered and want a record of, advantages being that it then is 1. not included in word limit 2. doesn't detract from central issue 3. We can all have this stuff here in one place for us all to use and refer to in the future (Tony, the wiki doesn't disappear does it?)
I sent you copies of the emails I've exchanged with Muriel.re word limit/reflections.
How about we do a short group reflection = discovered so much exciting stuff, how we organised ourselves/meetings etc, and then a short individual reflection too.?
HI Wednesday - Its George - thanks for meeting last night everyone... I thought it was good. Just to let you know, I downloaded a different web browser this morning (firefox ) and I am having a much better time viewing and editing all pages, even the difficult ones.. no crashes... I recommend it.
Green worlds look fabulous...see you all tonight. F.
Yikes...that was weird I lost my page! ... the green worlds are a great choice - yes please. I think we could do that throughout for continuity, what do you think?
G - 23/ 5 - HI fiona... is there a particular background you want? green worlds.. .I am just finally figuring this out now so tell me what you want and I can do it.
F- 23/5 PLAN OF ATTACK !!!!!
I can write up the conclusion but don't really want to touch it until we've finished the body.
We have 2 more Tuesday meetings 27/5, 3/6 before due date ( Monday 9th June). Shall we plan a Sunday night final meeting.... ceremonial group submission!!! ????
It's probably time to be ruthless and cut...thowever, here is so much interesting stuff in the wiki that people may want to copy and save for their personal files - maybe do that now?? Tuesday 27, shall we go through as a group and (1).cut, cut, cut (2). Agree on overall appearance/format etc. (3). talk about outstanding issues.
This means we all need to finish our sites by next Tuesday 27th May ie in 4 days. This includes all references - Tony needs us to put all our references = full citation, at the bottom of our sections (it's not fair if he has to search for all the details and create hotlinks). There will probably be a few last minute things e.g. I plan to add a transcript of my students text chat, but that won't change the format as it will be a link.
F -23/5 Where shall we do the blurb about Synchronous/Asynchronous. I maybe as a lead-in to the different modes? Could that maybe be page 3 'Communication modes', a little intro?
Fiona here 23/5 - I can't format my text chat page - that intial paragraph is out of alignment and refuses to be edited - any ideas? My original document is well aligned, and if I copy the wiki doc back over to word it becomes aligned, so there is something on the actual page that is doing it. Also, I would like the background colour to tie in with others - can you do this george? Or is it easier to leave the final format til the end, so that the doc presents as reasonably uniform -
Fiona here Friday 23 - Thanks for sorting that overview page out george... I spent soem time reworking it, then lost the lot when I tried to save the changes - don't know why -VERY frustrating, so then I re did it in word and just created that new page as the overview page crashed every time I tried to edit it. Did you have that problem? By the way...there are a few more tweaks needed but that particular page CRASHES every time I click the edit button...what is going on here?
HI everyone
Nihaya , I am trying to fix my photo but my computer is very slow and i cannot do it. I saw that ,George, ur online and doing work. Its almost impossible for me to do any changes now as my net is really slow.. If u can put my photo with my students where my context is i will appreciate that. I still need to do the links and i cant until my net comes back to its fast pace. I will try but i doubt it.
Hi all... George here... I've finally figured out how to do background colour for pages... but it is painstaking... if you want something in particular ... let me know
George - Hi, I've all but abandoned the yackpack project.... looks like their service is down. OH ... check out the new RSS feeds page I made. I've included a link to it in 10.references / further resources but you can also access it temporarily from the left pane menu, after message board. I guess I was thinking that pages below the double line could be deleted from the main interface eventually. This means they wouldn't appear there, but would still be part of our site. For example, leavign the message board would be a great example of the way we worked together... we could put a link to it in the reflection page, then delete it from the main navigation window (left pane). RSS mountain is a good place to search for RSS feeds
...oh and sorry Tony... I messed up your page again.. tried three times to put a short text in there... in white, in black etc etc.. but each time it rendered in black and white striped sections.. sorry.. you can revert to last good version if you need to.
(Fiona) -Have tried mine a couple of times too - but don't seem to be working. let me know when you hear from support....
GEORGE... check this out http://cmediatedc.wikispaces.com/test+page+3 if you want to use this (just to try it out), you have to sign up at yackpack.com.....then when youre signed in I can send an invitation to you ... its pretty weird to get the hand of.. ps.. my walkie talkie widgets are still disfunctional
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Hi (Fiona) While I almost finished my section last Thursday I didn't do the outline...George, you've done a great job there. My mum has been in town and has left now, so I'll have more time later this week to get stuff done.
See everyone tomorrow night...same time as last week? Hoepfully Nihaya will make it after her meeting.
Hi.. its george ... hey Tony .... asynchronous voice group..
HI George Here hi nihaya - first you need to be more specific. Do you mean hyperlinks to other pages in this site, hyperlinks to pages on other sites, or hyperlinks to sections of your own page. If its hyperlinks to other pages on this site, you need to highlight the text you want as your link, then click on the "add hyperlinkJ" box.... it looks like a little chain.... to the left of the add picture box on the editor control bar. If you want to link to other pages outside this site, you just have to copy and paste the www. address into your page... it will automatically be highlighted. If you want to make a link to a section on your own page, it is more difficult. find one of my pages where I did it , and look at the text editor to find the code .... or you can do a search in google "wikitext how to create anchors". Let me know how it goes...
or ...ok I just looked at your page.. nice work Nihaya... looks great!! about links to external sites.. I think I know what you want now.. you have to highlight the text.... then click on the link button up the top...icon with world and a chain link.. then click on link to EXTERNAL... and copy and paste the URL for that external site in the box.. think that should do it
... and oh.. regarding the Yackpacks... I believe the yackpack site is experienceing problems as none of the yackpack walkie talkies on any pages in or outside this site are presently working. I have sent their support team an email
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oh
HI
No one seems to have read my request. Can anyone please tell me how to do hyper links on my page? Thanks
Nihaya
Hi - I reverted to 1 contributors page... sorry if I trashed anyones work... tony I noticed you made some changes to it later than that... but the borders around the photos were pretty weird with the name of the photo ref under it.. also my powerpoint video was gone... dont know why... does anyone think it shouldnt be there?
fiona... how about some personal details from you
also. could someone else please test the yack packs on the language lab page.. they were working fine yesterday .. but today my computer cant activate them... dont know if its my computer or not.... if you load the language lab page... and also load the home page so you have both pages open... then click and hold yackpack (whole site communications), then you should be able to hear yourself talking... can someone else check it please with a fast connection
cheers
george
ps... I'm gonna take a break from this for a few days... see you tuesday night
Nihaya Sunday: HI everyone, well done to George and everyone else that contributed. I have a lot of words on my page and i wil be deleting more in the coming days, I have a problem, we seem to have used all the allowable usage although its 12 g. I am not sure how to write this, my access now is v limited. I will try to may be call the company and pay for another month. By the way. I have an urgent meeting on Tuesday at 8 pm and am not sure what time i wil be back. SO from school to that appointment back to ours. I will do the best i can to be here. I need help with putting hyper links. My son was going to help me but he got frustrated when the internet slowed down. I cannto beloieve we used all of that. i think may be because Anas, my son made it wirless this month and may be some people are usiing it. I have put some things here and there from my page as it was good for other pages. Can u let me know wat u think. I have put a nice picture of emaisl. I wana keep this one. Also at least 2 videos and i am ok with my page except i need to cut on words.
Tony, is it ok to tell u ur page is too dark! What do u think?
Fiona Sunday: By the way, your management of the space looks amazing George. I agree that we should mention wikis. I think it is absolutely appropriate to recognise that we have realised their huge potential as a result of this assigment! . I'm wondering if this shouldn't go in the reflection page though? Firstly, I like the whole 'we have learnt something' tack... secondly I'm conscious that we are already needing to cut words. By the way ..... have wiki references!!!! surprise surprise.
URGENT not any longer.Sunday 18 FionaOk, I seem to have fixed it myself thank goodness.
George/Tony/Nihaya, I have emailed you but this may be quicker. I have stuffed up the authors' page, don't know how - am SO sorry. It should be recoverable as it is all in the history, but I don't want to touch it. Can you please try to do it George, as your skills with this space far outstrip mine? If I go back to Nihaya's last change it is all tstill there...
Sunday 18th..George.... doesn't seem like anyones doing much to the site... well I'll just keep pressing on... let me know if you don't like something. George, at this point you are way ahead of me with the site management - go for it. Fiona. Also, I'm sorry if I deleted or changed anyones work inadvertently while trying to keep our main left navigation screen clean. Now you can make as many pages as you want and it wont appear or clutter up this screen. But you will have to go to "page list all " to see the pages you made.
. ... also. I made some headings in the reference/ resources page.. could whoever put the references up here cut and copy them into appropriate sections.... it will help our site visitors to know whats going on... how to find relevant info etc. etc... let me know what you think
sat 17th... any new pages you create can now be accessed from PAGE LIST - ALL
Saturday 17th.. Hi again... I just made the change... I think its better... but when you create new pages... they will not automatically appear in the menu anymore. instead.. you should go to Manage space and "list pages" ... if you want your page to appear in the main menu, you can click on "edit navigation" on the bottom left... then create a hyperlink to the page. I am working on the language lab concept right now ... its a lot of fun using the yackpacks.
ps... I added another user to this page... username StudentXXX password fukui123 its important to keep upercase lowercase... If you want to invite a friend or student to the site... they can use that password to get in.... but they dont have manage space rights..
Saturday 17th.. Hi everyone. I have found a way to stop our new pages coming up automatically on the left hand side... this means that we can all create as many pages as we want, without spoiling the appearance of the main menu... if you want to list and view all pages therefore, you should go to "manage space" and click on "list pages"... The left menu might be blank for a while as I set it up.
Friday 16th.. Hi everyone . Yes Nihaya.. that can be so annoying when you lose everything. I have been creating new pages to work on .. then copying them back to the main page later... thats one way to do it. Or you can use that 'revert' function as you said...
I have put some tags (yackpack) at the bottom of each page. It will tell you how many people are on this site. If you click and hold... you can speak ... and anyone who is currently using the site will hear you.
Fiona.. is it ok if we delete the page ...4 a Text chat now? ps.. sorry I have not put much text up yet... I will get onto it... but have noticed that there is already a lot of text.
thanks
George
Thursday 15
HI everyone
AM not sure if u r familiar with tracing back stuff on ur pages which u lost. I just did that with my email page. I have lost everything so i went back to manage space and looked at the history under the page lists or something. looked under changes and compared it with todays and i copied the page from the 11 of May and at least i got somethings back. SO if u r disparate like me do that if u r faced with a similar problem.
Hi George
I have lost my email page while i was trying to edit it. Now i have nothing!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday15
Hi everyone - HI Fiona.. no worries.. thats what I:ve done. some other things... Nihaya... I:ve deleted your second Email and TESOL page.. and copied everything back to 3.Email. You will find everything there... but it is really a lot of text.. and videos too.. you shouldnt have much trouble deleting the videos you dont want to keep .. .. you just have to select it and delete.... or keep them if you want... my opinion is that most of them are irrelevant.
.. Tony I had a look at your page and it looked good... until I tried to add a widgit and all the black went into stripes etc etc.. Im sure you know what i mean .. the black table is like black ice... just keeps getting harder and harder to work with.. I was thinking it might be a good idea to just have black on the front pages.. and then links going down past the 'one black cell from hell' into white space... where we can construct much more easily. I have tried to set this up for everyone on the 2. overview of issue page. I think the trick will be to put in headings that link to white space and easier to use formatting. BTW I tried to set up the page again... on 'test page' ... take a look.. the photo stretched in the cell is opening it up to width.. but then the text flow is weird... and on certain puters goes outside the area... so you 'd have to put in your own returns.... strange I know
Although I:ve been pretty active in constructing this site so far, please don't let this opportunity go by without getting the most out of it for yourselves. As for me, I dont care about marks, just about how much I can get out of this for my own benefit. Since I want to set up an online learning environment in the future... setting up this space is great for me.... but I think we all need to have a go at it...
take a look at the new *contact ' page... the login for teachers is a different site... meebo.. I believe.. and I can give you the log in details if you want them... It enables a private chat with an educator. I am IMagining a class of say approx 16 students in groups of 4... the walkie talkie windows should be interesting .. dont know if theyll work or not
seeya
George
George can you take the chat window off my text chat site? I can't manage the auto centering that keeps happening...maybe put it in a separate page?? F.
Damn, ...and of course it's the only text I didn't keep a copy of! There were a couple of good quotes, I'll find them again. F
somehow the contents of this page (overview of issue) were lost...
don't know why but they all of a sudden dissapeared all together..
.it will be a good idea to back up what you post here just in case that happens again.. we will have to start again on this one
George, you've been busy!!!! Well done. I thought I was in a lounge/bar site at first with all those dark, lush colours!
Listen, don't get freaked out by that other site. I did initially too. However they have too much -way too much. Also, remember - our stakeholder is not Muriel. We need our issue/proposal/implications -all in 3000 words. 'Succinct' will be our success. Links of course, for the extra info and those tricky questions from the 'audience' - and a barrage of references!
George...same time Tuesday.... do you mean previously or the new proposed 1/2 hour earlier? Is everyone else ok with this?
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Monday 12 th May.. Hi everyone...its george
Please find a nice photo of your face... and make it 100 x 100 pixels... or send it to me and I'll do that for you... it means that the 'authors of this space ' page will look neat.
it looks like a better idea if we go the other way around with this page.. I mean most recent posts up the top rather than the bottom - I can confirm for tuesday night at the same time.. its good for me
some things I have found out..
if you want to include table of contents in the page... you have to insert
at the top of the page... this will insert a table of contents at the right hand side of the pages.. and their will be links to anything on the page that is a *heading* . For this reason, I suggest that we dont use any headings until later... since re-formatting is a headache as I:ve found. Just put in the plain text ... unless you want it in the table of contents.
it really makes our work look pretty pathetic right now... so lets get going on this... I have spent a lot of time figuring out the layout ... sorry havent had much time to do the research but Im getting onto it now
seeyou soon
G
George
I have been trying to do things like u and ur right they are hard. I did copy your page and tried to do things like u. It didnt work out. Is it ok for u if my page looks a bit like yours? If not let me know. Thanks
George
How do u delete pages? I am trying to do that but dont know how.
George
How do u upload you tube files. I have included a few about emails and i have put their urls but dont no how to upload them. Can you show me? Or if you don't mind, and if it doesn't take you a lot of time, can you do that for me? Thanks George. Although i would like to know how.
George!
You have my photo in the authors' page. i appreciate that but it doesn't look very good. i am going to have to send you another one.
10 May
This is Nihaya
Tuesday is fine with me. By the way, i tried to sign up again but it didn't work out. I did 3 times so far! So i have no idea what the problem is! Can anyone sign up for me and use any password then they can inform me of it and maybe then i can still singn in. My email is n_bashaa@hotmail.com
Hi everyone
10 May
Nihaya again
i have looked up some references and add them to the reference page. I am in the process of reading a lot of them today. So am doing my task now.
We looked at the mind map which Fiona included under her name (I think) on the wiki .
Mind map: I couldnt look up the site as I was not able to get a confirmation email on my registration. However, Goerge did and he was able to navigate the site. You can ask them about it as am not sure how it works. We talked about any references that we need to include on our wiki for the assignment. By the way, Foina has put some good ones under her name. So whenever you check it you will find valuable sites. We discussed that we are in week 10 and we need to submit a draft next week to Muriel (at least Fiona and I read about it somewhere). We have 4 weeks to go and we are doing fine with our assignment. Fiona talked about the criteria and we have covered every single one. We have thought of meeting again on Friday (it was my idea so we dont have to do it on Tuesdays). This time we will only chat as we can do other things as well while we are online. Its going to be Friday at 9 pm, my time and yours. Last note, Fiona, George and I wish that you will soon get well Tony.
From Fiona No need to submit a draft. (see attached email from Muriel) The references I put under 'text chat' are specific to that topic. However, if you look at the Site Project Plans, I have included a few interesting electronic journal sites for general interest. Not sure that we are doing fine yet. We need to pull this together a bit more quickly. Due date is only 3 weeks away. I will write up my text chat section over the next week. How is everyone else progressing with this? Let’s clear up next meeting date? Have to say, Mon Tues or Thurs is best for me. What about everyone else? Can we stick with Tuesday?
1Oth May
Hi everyone... I started this page so we can communicate through this site instead of e-mail
12th May
Next meeting. Can we stick with Tuesday? How about 7.30 (Fiona) 8.30 (George) 9.30 (Tony and Nihaya) . Can all confirm? Fiona.
Hi This is Nihaya
I wander if i can make it lighter. Yes i did the cover sheet thanks to Georges advice. I have also put it in the drop box but not sure if its right though!
Yes it's a bit dark but it's fine Nihaya.... hey! We are almost finished!!!! Have you managed to solve the cover page problem yet?
Hi (Nihaya) I have uploaded mine as well but its too dark!
Hi (Fiona), I've uploaded my signature...
Hi George
Thank u so much. I think you are an angel!!
HI all - george again.. just changed the contributors page to alphabetical order... thought this was better.
Hi Nihaya - it's george... If you want to use the boxes.. you have to put a "include page div close" when you want it to end.. then to get it the size you want.. you have to delet the spaces.. between the text and the "include box" object. I just had a look at your page.. the reason I used the box for the caption is that it was separate information/ style from the video caption. Now that you have 3 boxes.. .. the caption box doesnt looks special... I think. However, I'm glad you are experimenting with the boxes. I'm gonna change it a little... but you can experiment some more with it if you want.
Hi George
Its Nihaya. Thanks alot for doing my page. I like it better now. Again i have tried to make the ccaption for the videos look the same as the middle one you did as i like it more than the other one. Again i didnt go a good job. Sorry, i know u have been really patient with me. Thanks for everything. If u go to my page u will knwo what i mean.
Nihaya
HI Nihaya.. its george.. I worked on your page a bit... if you don't like it you can revert to another version.. see you tomorrow.. ps.. i sent you an email about the cover sheet.
HI George, Tony and Fiona. I tried to make my page like everyone else's in the layout and look but this is what i came up with. Now the videos look out of place. Also the colour blue has stretched all over the page. Any suggestions! ? Or should be put back how it was?? please help!!!!!
HI - George here.. the definition of voicemail from wikipedia - I guess I meant voice mail in terms of any kind of "stored" voice message that can be retrieved and listened to at a later date... including that function on Skype... Skype is not just synchronous... but also asynchronous (or has the potential to be ) , although I don't know how many people use it like that.. I have had a few voice mails on skype... and I thought they were pretty weird... actually i didn't hear it until a month later so you..... have to be there.. checking it regularly .. like email I suppose. You can also record a short message in MSN messenger... and then send it...not synchronous exactly.. actually all these mediums are becoming increasingly similar I think. Text used to be just asynchronous (writing letters) - then it became synchronous... with chat. On the other hand, we mostly think of voice as being synchronous. but it doesnt have to be.. take podcasts etc. I think its true that with CMC we often see new modes emerge, that shift the established norms of communication.
Here's the Wiki quote:
"Voicemail messages are stored on hard disk drives, media generally used by computers to store other forms of data. Messages are recorded in digitized natural human voice similar to how music is stored on a CD. To retrieve messages, a user calls the system from any phone, logs on using Touch-tones (clearing security), and his messages can be retrieved immediately. Many users can retrieve or store messages at the same time on the same voicemail system." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_mail
Many voicemail systems also offer an automated attendant facility. Automated attendants enable callers to a “main” business number to access directory service or self-route the call to various places such as a specific department, an extension number, or to an informational recording in a voice mailbox, etc"
Hi, Fiona here, I know what you mean re text chat, I actually think it's a combo. However..the voicemail thing...? Aren't we referring to Tony's voice calling eg skype, which is definitely synchronous?....
HI Fiona (george again) - I read your conclusion.. very nice. I also read through the intro .. and I didn't agree with what you said about text chat being asynchronous (small time delay).. thought that was a bit messy so I cleaned it up.. hope you don't mind....
OK (george) - I'll read it now... oh By the way - I just performed open heart surgery on Tony's page cause that out of align thing was really getting to me. Hope I haven't wrecked anything Tony... somehow I feel your page is a little drab... that pic I put there of the headset just looks really plain.. Do you have any other photos or something we coujld put there.
cheers
Hi it's Fiona. Conclusion is done...please read it and let me know if you think it's missing anything...I was conscious of word count..it's about 350. Couldn't really do it in less than that...it's more a matter of whether we need more....? Let me know what you think,...
HI NIhaya.. It's George .. If you download and set up FIREFOX you will probably be able to edit that page... you can get it here.....http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/?utm_id=Q108&utm_source=google&utm_medium=ppc&gclid=CJH17aij3ZMCFQcnbwodKW3NZQ
also.. firefox lets you do "tabbed browsing" ... just open as many page tabs as you want.. its so much easier to edit the wikisite... as I'm sure Fiona will agree. Anyway.. I'll put the comment below on the first page for you...
Err.. Fiona.. I looked at Tony's page and it still looks wacky to me... is it supposed to be centre aligned....
... George
HI. Nihaya again
I couldn't access the home page as i thought. SO this is what i want to leave on it next to email.
The usage of electronic mail enhances processes of dialogue and thus learning. It enhances students' English skills when they communicate outside the classroom.
From Nihaya. Thursday
Well done everyone! Wow! I love our site. Its so organized and looks fantastic. I don't think i can access the home page to do my summary. I am going to try it now but doubt that I can access it. If i cant do it then I will leave my summary here for anyone to do it for me on the home page next to my email page. I love your signature George. Looks really nice and authentic. Well done. By the way, whenever I download my coversheets from student connect i can never open them to write them or save them as word document. Any suggestions??!!! If i cant do that then am going to have to get the same sheet which Muriel left for the 1st essay and i will just reuse it and put the number for the second task. Cheers.
from Fiona Thursday..... Notes and edits
Hi guys... before writing the conclusion, I am going through the whole wiki, taking notes, doing a bit of editing ( just cutting out repetition, wordiness etc). I have been in your pages tightening and tweaking a few things...if you don’t like it, no prob, just check your history and revert back. Note, I have taken out the personal pronouns, ‘I have noticed’, ‘my school’ etc..
I have finally managed to edit the overview page through Firefox( as George suggested). The need for a definition of asynchronous/synchronous was queried... I've put it in as I'm not sure where we left this... do we want it? Anyway, if we do, this text addition makes the page looks unbalanced, but I don't want to fiddle... will leave that to Tony or George.
Why is Tony's wiki page out of alignment? I notice that the edit page is all aligned... (note, it was out of whack before I got there...made sure I checked that!)
Reference.. for George’s mobile page...I’ve found and put in a link for the Japan cell phone story- Tony can you check if you’re happy with how I put it in the bibliography? George, I definitely think the mobile phone page should be left in... I’ve slashed it up a bit though... ok?
I need to take a break though now... Am up to no.7 Virtual worlds... and freely admit I have been completely sidetracked (Firefox offers me much faster access). George... this really is such an exciting addition to the wiki, well done.
The whole thing is looking and sounding so good!!!!
ps..why has this saved outside the page???? is it word? I saved as a 97-2003 word doc so it can't be that...
.... Actually tony... thats embarrassing.... errr^.^
From Tony
George, did you know that you are the 4th most prolific editor on wikispaces?! Oh ... My... God!
from Fiona - George, god, I don't know.... to embed or not to embed.... the refs look interesting but I think I'm out of puff and will stick to the existing ones! Tony, I agree that the bibliography is better 'neat' on its own.
FIONA AND TONY... and Nihaya ... hi , its george,... I found some extra references that I had from early in the semester ... I uploaded them here to the site just in case anyone could be bothered having a look.. some of them are quite good. .. also , I found a great way to upload and embed documents as flash objects... it looks pretty cool... check it out here... or here. Let me know if you have any other docs you would like to embed like this.. I know its just fancy stuff but I cant resist it... seeyou tomorrow nighy
Hi Nihaya... its not so hard really... you just have to look at *history*.... you will find it at the top of your page... you can look at all the different versions of your pages
Monday
from Nihaya
HI George
God bless you! I don't know how u did it but u did. I appreciate it a lot!
Sunday
HI Everyone..(george)..oh ... could you all try to write two sentences on the intro page... it looks good as an index. also... just wondering - do you think it would be better to put the "extra resources" on a separate page....? so that the bibliography is neat/ compact... I expect the further resources section could be potentially massive and a little messy. ps.. I had a look at that other groups site and these days its not looking as great as I thought it was a few weeks ago... well done everyone!!
Hi George
I have edited your references into the references page. But I have not edited the references on your page. Did you want me to make them match the Deakin Style Guide? I have emailed you what they would look like. There are a couple of author's names I need help with ... they weren't clearly listed on the web page you referred to.
Hi Fiona,
I made a few changes to your references on your page- just to make it more like the style guide. I also made the font & format uniform. Did you have time to check that one I emailed you about?
Sunday
HI Nihaya.. its george... I saw your problems... I reverted your page to an earlier version.. I hope this is what you wanted... yes.. editing in wikispaces is sometimes very frustrating.. i suggest you do it all in microsoft word first... then copy to wikispace.. might be less frustrating for you... but when you copy it back to wikispace, it helps if you put it in "wordpad" first.. then from wordpad into wikispaces... this helps to remove formatting that makes the page confused....does this make sense?... good luck ...
Nihaya
HELP, George or anyone!!!
I have crashed my page and i lost everything but when i want to get back to everything from manage space i lose the videos. also the image does not sit like b4. Can you help me put everything back together, pleas! I have made changes but i have to abandon them to redo them again. I need my page back please. I am trying to get it from last night and the changes are made by me.
Sunday - its george hi.. sorry I have no idea why the overview page keeps on crashing. I tried re-building it .. but it still crashes.. I have found sometimes I can access it with firefox browser.. but in the meantime.. if you cant access and you want to add or subtract text.. you can let me know and I could try to do it.. cheers everyone..George
Saturday night - I'm leaning towards deleting the mobile phone page... does anyone have an opinion about it, or want to spend some time working on it?
Friday Night ... its George , hi.. OK I looked. How about 1 2 3 4 5 etc. 6 mobiles 7 virtual worlds, 8 conclusion, 9 references further resources 10 reflection 11 Language Lab, Chat 1, 2, 3.
I think if I ever want students to use this site it should be easy to Navigate to and should still appear on the left menu. but I think last is prolly better. what do you think. anything coming after the references and further resources would be outside the word limit? is that correct. ??
cheers..George..lll Oh I say the title.. yeah.. now you know how time consuming doing the formatting really is. Its a nightmare.. nothing works and it suddently you've got two images overlapping eachother. It has to do with the magnification function used in the text edit window. If you hit the return key it inserts a new line, but the line is also a larger percent magnification, so ends up overlapping the first text. Well it took me a while to get it fixed. Even harder was removing the annoying little bars that appear in table of contents . I have ditched the right aligned table of contents.. as way too messy. but good on a few of the pages. I like them just horizontal under the heading. What do you think? but only use heading 1 if you want your text to appear in the table of contents. Also, dont make it "heading one" until all the other work on your text is done. This avoids problems with weird stuff appearing in the TABLE OF CONTENTS>
Also you'll see a number of "include page" blocks if you are editing the pages, Please leave these. They are the black background, the yellow boxes, and the fact that when you click on a link it opens automatically in a new window.
cheers... ps...I'll be home all weekend doing research. Prolly leave skype up an runnin
George
Friday - Fiona. Hi all, I have emailed everyone some notes I made while going through the wiki, suggestions/comments re edits/changes. Could you look at these?
Do you want me to do the conclusion? No problem, but can you please throw in anything you'd like to include on that page - just point form.
I'll check out firefox, thanks George, I should have thought of that... Oh George, I fiddled with the front page...is the title change ok? I can't get a damn space between the lines though. Also, I cut the explanation sentences from the modes of communication...I thought it was too wordy and belonged in the section itself...is that ok? Can be changed back of course.
Looking again, I don't think the language lab belongs before the conclusion..... I suggest that our reflection page should be separate and come after the conclusion. Reflection can also include our 'potential' page with all the exciting stuff we have discovered and want a record of, advantages being that it then is 1. not included in word limit 2. doesn't detract from central issue 3. We can all have this stuff here in one place for us all to use and refer to in the future (Tony, the wiki doesn't disappear does it?)
I sent you copies of the emails I've exchanged with Muriel.re word limit/reflections.
How about we do a short group reflection = discovered so much exciting stuff, how we organised ourselves/meetings etc, and then a short individual reflection too.?
HI Wednesday - Its George - thanks for meeting last night everyone... I thought it was good. Just to let you know, I downloaded a different web browser this morning (firefox ) and I am having a much better time viewing and editing all pages, even the difficult ones.. no crashes... I recommend it.
Green worlds look fabulous...see you all tonight. F.
Yikes...that was weird I lost my page! ... the green worlds are a great choice - yes please. I think we could do that throughout for continuity, what do you think?
G - 23/ 5 - HI fiona... is there a particular background you want? green worlds.. .I am just finally figuring this out now so tell me what you want and I can do it.
F- 23/5 PLAN OF ATTACK !!!!!
I can write up the conclusion but don't really want to touch it until we've finished the body.
We have 2 more Tuesday meetings 27/5, 3/6 before due date ( Monday 9th June). Shall we plan a Sunday night final meeting.... ceremonial group submission!!! ????
It's probably time to be ruthless and cut...thowever, here is so much interesting stuff in the wiki that people may want to copy and save for their personal files - maybe do that now?? Tuesday 27, shall we go through as a group and (1).cut, cut, cut (2). Agree on overall appearance/format etc. (3). talk about outstanding issues.
This means we all need to finish our sites by next Tuesday 27th May ie in 4 days. This includes all references - Tony needs us to put all our references = full citation, at the bottom of our sections (it's not fair if he has to search for all the details and create hotlinks). There will probably be a few last minute things e.g. I plan to add a transcript of my students text chat, but that won't change the format as it will be a link.
F -23/5 Where shall we do the blurb about Synchronous/Asynchronous. I maybe as a lead-in to the different modes? Could that maybe be page 3 'Communication modes', a little intro?
Fiona here 23/5- Tony, I'm wondering if we shouldn't just keep the references all in one group - simpler and clearer - like these electronic journals do ????? (sorry - I see why the other format is appealing but it's probably too confusing)
http://tesl-ej.org/ej25/int.html</span>
http://www.iatefl.org.pl/call/j_soft16.htm#compton</span>
Fiona here 23/5 - I can't format my text chat page - that intial paragraph is out of alignment and refuses to be edited - any ideas? My original document is well aligned, and if I copy the wiki doc back over to word it becomes aligned, so there is something on the actual page that is doing it. Also, I would like the background colour to tie in with others - can you do this george? Or is it easier to leave the final format til the end, so that the doc presents as reasonably uniform -
Fiona here Friday 23 - Thanks for sorting that overview page out george... I spent soem time reworking it, then lost the lot when I tried to save the changes - don't know why -VERY frustrating, so then I re did it in word and just created that new page as the overview page crashed every time I tried to edit it. Did you have that problem? By the way...there are a few more tweaks needed but that particular page CRASHES every time I click the edit button...what is going on here?
HI everyone
Nihaya , I am trying to fix my photo but my computer is very slow and i cannot do it. I saw that ,George, ur online and doing work. Its almost impossible for me to do any changes now as my net is really slow.. If u can put my photo with my students where my context is i will appreciate that. I still need to do the links and i cant until my net comes back to its fast pace. I will try but i doubt it.
Hi all... George here... I've finally figured out how to do background colour for pages... but it is painstaking... if you want something in particular ... let me know
George - Hi, I've all but abandoned the yackpack project.... looks like their service is down. OH ... check out the new RSS feeds page I made. I've included a link to it in 10.references / further resources but you can also access it temporarily from the left pane menu, after message board. I guess I was thinking that pages below the double line could be deleted from the main interface eventually. This means they wouldn't appear there, but would still be part of our site. For example, leavign the message board would be a great example of the way we worked together... we could put a link to it in the reflection page, then delete it from the main navigation window (left pane). RSS mountain is a good place to search for RSS feeds
...oh and sorry Tony... I messed up your page again.. tried three times to put a short text in there... in white, in black etc etc.. but each time it rendered in black and white striped sections.. sorry.. you can revert to last good version if you need to.
(Fiona) -Have tried mine a couple of times too - but don't seem to be working. let me know when you hear from support....
GEORGE... check this out http://cmediatedc.wikispaces.com/test+page+3 if you want to use this (just to try it out), you have to sign up at yackpack.com.....then when youre signed in I can send an invitation to you ... its pretty weird to get the hand of.. ps.. my walkie talkie widgets are still disfunctional
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Hi (Fiona) While I almost finished my section last Thursday I didn't do the outline...George, you've done a great job there. My mum has been in town and has left now, so I'll have more time later this week to get stuff done.
See everyone tomorrow night...same time as last week? Hoepfully Nihaya will make it after her meeting.
Hi.. its george ... hey Tony .... asynchronous voice group..
check it out
"So what if you could run a conversation spread out over time, just like you can on a __message board__, with participants answering one another in their own time, creating an ongoing conversation outside of the confines of a live event? Now you can.
__YackPack__ is a very nicely featured set of free online solutions for creating __synchronous or asynchronous__ voice messaging sessions, whether you want to talk to one person, or one hundred. Among the capabilities that YackPack offers are:"
http://www.masternewmedia.org/online_collaboration/VoIP-conferencing-and-call-recording
/free-conference-calls-VoIP-voice-messaging-better-than-skype-yackpack-20070515.htm
HI George Here hi nihaya - first you need to be more specific. Do you mean hyperlinks to other pages in this site, hyperlinks to pages on other sites, or hyperlinks to sections of your own page. If its hyperlinks to other pages on this site, you need to highlight the text you want as your link, then click on the "add hyperlinkJ" box.... it looks like a little chain.... to the left of the add picture box on the editor control bar. If you want to link to other pages outside this site, you just have to copy and paste the www. address into your page... it will automatically be highlighted. If you want to make a link to a section on your own page, it is more difficult. find one of my pages where I did it , and look at the text editor to find the code .... or you can do a search in google "wikitext how to create anchors". Let me know how it goes...
or ...ok I just looked at your page.. nice work Nihaya... looks great!! about links to external sites.. I think I know what you want now.. you have to highlight the text.... then click on the link button up the top...icon with world and a chain link.. then click on link to EXTERNAL... and copy and paste the URL for that external site in the box.. think that should do it
... and oh.. regarding the Yackpacks... I believe the yackpack site is experienceing problems as none of the yackpack walkie talkies on any pages in or outside this site are presently working. I have sent their support team an email
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oh
HI
No one seems to have read my request. Can anyone please tell me how to do hyper links on my page? Thanks
Nihaya
Hi - I reverted to 1 contributors page... sorry if I trashed anyones work... tony I noticed you made some changes to it later than that... but the borders around the photos were pretty weird with the name of the photo ref under it.. also my powerpoint video was gone... dont know why... does anyone think it shouldnt be there?
fiona... how about some personal details from you
also. could someone else please test the yack packs on the language lab page.. they were working fine yesterday .. but today my computer cant activate them... dont know if its my computer or not.... if you load the language lab page... and also load the home page so you have both pages open... then click and hold yackpack (whole site communications), then you should be able to hear yourself talking... can someone else check it please with a fast connection
cheers
george
ps... I'm gonna take a break from this for a few days... see you tuesday night
Nihaya Sunday: HI everyone, well done to George and everyone else that contributed. I have a lot of words on my page and i wil be deleting more in the coming days, I have a problem, we seem to have used all the allowable usage although its 12 g. I am not sure how to write this, my access now is v limited. I will try to may be call the company and pay for another month. By the way. I have an urgent meeting on Tuesday at 8 pm and am not sure what time i wil be back. SO from school to that appointment back to ours. I will do the best i can to be here. I need help with putting hyper links. My son was going to help me but he got frustrated when the internet slowed down. I cannto beloieve we used all of that. i think may be because Anas, my son made it wirless this month and may be some people are usiing it. I have put some things here and there from my page as it was good for other pages. Can u let me know wat u think. I have put a nice picture of emaisl. I wana keep this one. Also at least 2 videos and i am ok with my page except i need to cut on words.
Tony, is it ok to tell u ur page is too dark! What do u think?
Fiona Sunday: By the way, your management of the space looks amazing George. I agree that we should mention wikis. I think it is absolutely appropriate to recognise that we have realised their huge potential as a result of this assigment! . I'm wondering if this shouldn't go in the reflection page though? Firstly, I like the whole 'we have learnt something' tack... secondly I'm conscious that we are already needing to cut words. By the way ..... have wiki references!!!! surprise surprise.
URGENT not any longer.Sunday 18 Fiona Ok, I seem to have fixed it myself thank goodness.
George/Tony/Nihaya, I have emailed you but this may be quicker. I have stuffed up the authors' page, don't know how - am SO sorry. It should be recoverable as it is all in the history, but I don't want to touch it. Can you please try to do it George, as your skills with this space far outstrip mine? If I go back to Nihaya's last change it is all tstill there...
Sunday 18th..George.... doesn't seem like anyones doing much to the site... well I'll just keep pressing on... let me know if you don't like something. George, at this point you are way ahead of me with the site management - go for it. Fiona. Also, I'm sorry if I deleted or changed anyones work inadvertently while trying to keep our main left navigation screen clean. Now you can make as many pages as you want and it wont appear or clutter up this screen. But you will have to go to "page list all " to see the pages you made.
. ... also. I made some headings in the reference/ resources page.. could whoever put the references up here cut and copy them into appropriate sections.... it will help our site visitors to know whats going on... how to find relevant info etc. etc... let me know what you think
sat 17th... any new pages you create can now be accessed from PAGE LIST - ALL
Saturday 17th.. Hi again... I just made the change... I think its better... but when you create new pages... they will not automatically appear in the menu anymore. instead.. you should go to Manage space and "list pages" ... if you want your page to appear in the main menu, you can click on "edit navigation" on the bottom left... then create a hyperlink to the page. I am working on the language lab concept right now ... its a lot of fun using the yackpacks.
ps... I added another user to this page... username StudentXXX password fukui123 its important to keep upercase lowercase... If you want to invite a friend or student to the site... they can use that password to get in.... but they dont have manage space rights..
Saturday 17th.. Hi everyone. I have found a way to stop our new pages coming up automatically on the left hand side... this means that we can all create as many pages as we want, without spoiling the appearance of the main menu... if you want to list and view all pages therefore, you should go to "manage space" and click on "list pages"... The left menu might be blank for a while as I set it up.
Friday 16th.. Hi everyone . Yes Nihaya.. that can be so annoying when you lose everything. I have been creating new pages to work on .. then copying them back to the main page later... thats one way to do it. Or you can use that 'revert' function as you said...
I have put some tags (yackpack) at the bottom of each page. It will tell you how many people are on this site. If you click and hold... you can speak ... and anyone who is currently using the site will hear you.
Fiona.. is it ok if we delete the page ...4 a Text chat now? ps.. sorry I have not put much text up yet... I will get onto it... but have noticed that there is already a lot of text.
thanks
George
Thursday 15
HI everyone
AM not sure if u r familiar with tracing back stuff on ur pages which u lost. I just did that with my email page. I have lost everything so i went back to manage space and looked at the history under the page lists or something. looked under changes and compared it with todays and i copied the page from the 11 of May and at least i got somethings back. SO if u r disparate like me do that if u r faced with a similar problem.
Hi George
I have lost my email page while i was trying to edit it. Now i have nothing!!!!!!!!!!!
Thursday15
Hi everyone - HI Fiona.. no worries.. thats what I:ve done. some other things... Nihaya... I:ve deleted your second Email and TESOL page.. and copied everything back to 3.Email. You will find everything there... but it is really a lot of text.. and videos too.. you shouldnt have much trouble deleting the videos you dont want to keep .. .. you just have to select it and delete.... or keep them if you want... my opinion is that most of them are irrelevant.
.. Tony I had a look at your page and it looked good... until I tried to add a widgit and all the black went into stripes etc etc.. Im sure you know what i mean .. the black table is like black ice... just keeps getting harder and harder to work with.. I was thinking it might be a good idea to just have black on the front pages.. and then links going down past the 'one black cell from hell' into white space... where we can construct much more easily. I have tried to set this up for everyone on the 2. overview of issue page. I think the trick will be to put in headings that link to white space and easier to use formatting. BTW I tried to set up the page again... on 'test page' ... take a look.. the photo stretched in the cell is opening it up to width.. but then the text flow is weird... and on certain puters goes outside the area... so you 'd have to put in your own returns.... strange I know
Although I:ve been pretty active in constructing this site so far, please don't let this opportunity go by without getting the most out of it for yourselves. As for me, I dont care about marks, just about how much I can get out of this for my own benefit. Since I want to set up an online learning environment in the future... setting up this space is great for me.... but I think we all need to have a go at it...
take a look at the new *contact ' page... the login for teachers is a different site... meebo.. I believe.. and I can give you the log in details if you want them... It enables a private chat with an educator. I am IMagining a class of say approx 16 students in groups of 4... the walkie talkie windows should be interesting .. dont know if theyll work or not
seeya
George
George can you take the chat window off my text chat site? I can't manage the auto centering that keeps happening...maybe put it in a separate page?? F.
Damn, ...and of course it's the only text I didn't keep a copy of! There were a couple of good quotes, I'll find them again. F
somehow the contents of this page (overview of issue) were lost...
don't know why but they all of a sudden dissapeared all together..
.it will be a good idea to back up what you post here just in case that happens again.. we will have to start again on this one
George, you've been busy!!!! Well done. I thought I was in a lounge/bar site at first with all those dark, lush colours!
Listen, don't get freaked out by that other site. I did initially too. However they have too much -way too much. Also, remember - our stakeholder is not Muriel. We need our issue/proposal/implications -all in 3000 words. 'Succinct' will be our success. Links of course, for the extra info and those tricky questions from the 'audience' - and a barrage of references!
George...same time Tuesday.... do you mean previously or the new proposed 1/2 hour earlier? Is everyone else ok with this?
F
Monday 12 th May.. Hi everyone...its george
Please find a nice photo of your face... and make it 100 x 100 pixels... or send it to me and I'll do that for you... it means that the 'authors of this space ' page will look neat.
it looks like a better idea if we go the other way around with this page.. I mean most recent posts up the top rather than the bottom - I can confirm for tuesday night at the same time.. its good for me
some things I have found out..
if you want to include table of contents in the page... you have to insert
Table of Contents
at the top of the page... this will insert a table of contents at the right hand side of the pages.. and their will be links to anything on the page that is a *heading* . For this reason, I suggest that we dont use any headings until later... since re-formatting is a headache as I:ve found. Just put in the plain text ... unless you want it in the table of contents.
for help creating anchor points within a single page see http://www.wikispaces.com/wikitext+anchor
it will be better if we do this ... it will stop our wiki from exploding with too many pages...
re...colour in the tables... that is a headache... I cant explain it right now
also I had a look at that other groups page http://criticalliteracyandcreativity.wikispaces.com/
it really makes our work look pretty pathetic right now... so lets get going on this... I have spent a lot of time figuring out the layout ... sorry havent had much time to do the research but Im getting onto it now
seeyou soon
G
George
I have been trying to do things like u and ur right they are hard. I did copy your page and tried to do things like u. It didnt work out. Is it ok for u if my page looks a bit like yours? If not let me know. Thanks
George
How do u delete pages? I am trying to do that but dont know how.
George
How do u upload you tube files. I have included a few about emails and i have put their urls but dont no how to upload them. Can you show me? Or if you don't mind, and if it doesn't take you a lot of time, can you do that for me? Thanks George. Although i would like to know how.
George!
You have my photo in the authors' page. i appreciate that but it doesn't look very good. i am going to have to send you another one.
10 May
This is Nihaya
Tuesday is fine with me. By the way, i tried to sign up again but it didn't work out. I did 3 times so far! So i have no idea what the problem is! Can anyone sign up for me and use any password then they can inform me of it and maybe then i can still singn in. My email is n_bashaa@hotmail.com
Hi everyone
10 May
Nihaya again
i have looked up some references and add them to the reference page. I am in the process of reading a lot of them today. So am doing my task now.
8th May
Guys, I’m a little concerned that we should be making more progress. I found a reference to another group’s wiki on DSO - check it out.
http://criticalliteracyandcreativity.wikispaces.com/
Fri, 9 May 2008
from Nihaya
This wat i wrote to Tony
Hi Tony
we have discussed few things yesterday
We looked at the mind map which Fiona included under her name (I think) on the wiki .
Mind map: I couldnt look up the site as I was not able to get a confirmation email on my registration. However, Goerge did and he was able to navigate the site. You can ask them about it as am not sure how it works.
We talked about any references that we need to include on our wiki for the assignment. By the way, Foina has put some good ones under her name. So whenever you check it you will find valuable sites.
We discussed that we are in week 10 and we need to submit a draft next week to Muriel (at least Fiona and I read about it somewhere).
We have 4 weeks to go and we are doing fine with our assignment. Fiona talked about the criteria and we have covered every single one.
We have thought of meeting again on Friday (it was my idea so we dont have to do it on Tuesdays). This time we will only chat as we can do other things as well while we are online. Its going to be Friday at 9 pm, my time and yours.
Last note, Fiona, George and I wish that you will soon get well Tony.
From Fiona
No need to submit a draft. (see attached email from Muriel)
The references I put under 'text chat' are specific to that topic. However, if you look at the Site Project Plans, I have included a few interesting electronic journal sites for general interest.
Not sure that we are doing fine yet. We need to pull this together a bit more quickly. Due date is only 3 weeks away. I will write up my text chat section over the next week. How is everyone else progressing with this?
Let’s clear up next meeting date? Have to say, Mon Tues or Thurs is best for me. What about everyone else? Can we stick with Tuesday?
1Oth May
Hi everyone... I started this page so we can communicate through this site instead of e-mail
12th May
Next meeting. Can we stick with Tuesday? How about 7.30 (Fiona) 8.30 (George) 9.30 (Tony and Nihaya) . Can all confirm? Fiona.